2ZR-FE Turbo Kit

ZeCorolla

ZeCorolla

I Love Corolla's!
#51
#51
DjAnnexAlpha said:
****. So far I haven't had any luck with toyota. Apparently no one knows the stats of their product. Will keep you updated more on this. Also, we can do whatever we want to the engine. The weak link is the transmission.
Click to expand...
I might ask about the CVT transmission at the dealership when I get my next oil change.
 
ZeCorolla

ZeCorolla

I Love Corolla's!
#52
#52
So, I have been E-mailing a guy at a Toyota dealership who has a friend who works as a Toyota Engineer and this is what he said:

I have talked to my friend and Toyota does not publish a maximum power spec for the transmission, the belt is an alloy of some type, no actual specifics on what the alloy is made up of. He is going to check further however he doesn’t think he will find much more here in Canada.
Click to expand...
At least we know that the belt is made of a type of alloy and not rubber. I will keep you guys updated.
 
ZeCorolla

ZeCorolla

I Love Corolla's!
#55
#55
DjAnnexAlpha said:
Unfortunately, we are the only ones left who actually care about the CVT transmission enough to actually turbo it.
Click to expand...
So if the CVT actually works with the turbo, then you will be unique to have a turbo Corolla with a CVT!:D I am going to have to email someone higher than the dealership so once I get more info, I'll post it!:thumbsup:
 
Last edited:
Scott O'Kashan

Scott O'Kashan

Super Moderator
#56
#56
Why would Toyota accountants allow a transmission to be designed to be strong enough to withstand power levels it was never intended to? That would unnecessarily increase production costs, which would reduce profit margins and that is a big no-no, especially with an economy car.
 
Last edited:
Donabed Kopoian

Donabed Kopoian

6 Speed Master
#58
#58
Scott, increases durability and reduces warranty repairs for those that drive aggressively.

Building a transmission to JUST handle the stock engine is not how you produce a transmission that will last 200,000 miles or more.
 
Scott O'Kashan

Scott O'Kashan

Super Moderator
#60
#60
Donabed Kopoian said:
Scott, increases durability and reduces warranty repairs for those that drive aggressively.

Building a transmission to JUST handle the stock engine is not how you produce a transmission that will last 200,000 miles or more.
Click to expand...
Original equipment warranties don't extend to 200,000 miles or more and over-aggressive driving is considered abuse that is not covered by the warranty. Toyota accountants are not going to allow parts to be over-engineered, which raises the cost of production and the selling price of the car. That would be death for the sales numbers of an economy car.
 
Last edited:
Donabed Kopoian

Donabed Kopoian

6 Speed Master
#61
#61
Not about the warranty. You build a car that only lasts to 60,000 miles and you go out of business.

Plus, Toyotas Corollas are always a little more than say, a Focus, Dart, etc. Why? Toyota builds them to last and that is in the price. That's what you pay for when you buy a Toyota.
 
Last edited:
Donabed Kopoian

Donabed Kopoian

6 Speed Master
#63
#63
For some people, they are willing to pay that price of losing longevity to turbocharge, even if it is just a Corolla...

A few people run 8 p.s.i. no problem for many years.
 
V

VTAK8k

2014 S Plus
#64
#64
Scott O'Kashan said:
Original equipment warranties don't extend to 200,000 miles or more and over-aggressive driving is considered abuse that is not covered by the warranty. Toyota accountants are not going to allow parts to be over-engineered, which raises the cost of production and the selling price of the car. That would be death for the sales numbers of an economy car.
Click to expand...
You've probly bought a Toyota for the same reason everyone else has, their reputation for reliability and longevity. The only way you get a reputation like this, is to overengineer some parts.

If done right, this engine can handle a small amount of boost and still be more reliable than most of its competitors. I don't think anyone is thinking of throwing a ton of boost at it and expecting it to hold up.
 
ZeCorolla

ZeCorolla

I Love Corolla's!
#67
#67
I emailed another guy but he's on a higher level in Toyota so I should be able to get an answer soon! I may email TK.com as well to see what they say.
 
ZeCorolla

ZeCorolla

I Love Corolla's!
#71
#71
So I've got a bit of an update...

First, I was confirmed by Toyota that the material of the CVT transmission belt is made of "reinforced polymer material".

The second thing is this email I received from a Toyota mechanic and his thoughts on turbocharging this car with the CVT:
[FONT=&quot]
In most cases as long as you have the correct fueling etc and don’t run max boost for a long period of time you should be okay in my personal opinion. Please also remember that my opinion has nothing to do with Toyota warranty etc.
Click to expand...


[/FONT]
 
P

phantomknight321

New Member
#72
#72
ZeCorolla said:
So I've got a bit of an update...

First, I was confirmed by Toyota that the material of the CVT transmission belt is made of "reinforced polymer material".

The second thing is this email I received from a Toyota mechanic and his thoughts on turbocharging this car with the CVT:
[FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]
Click to expand...
Not quite the definitive answer i was hoping for, but I have been considering the fact that many cars come with a CVT pushing much more horsepower than the corolla. So, if it is built well, and we dont go crazy pushing the limits, we should be fine after all
 
Scott O'Kashan

Scott O'Kashan

Super Moderator
#73
#73
Mechanics turn wrenches and replace parts. They don't tend to have a college degree in engineering.

An economy car driveline subjected to the pressure of a turbocharger that it was never intended or designed to withstand. :nuke: :blink: :icon_eek:

Hmmm....roll the dice! :yes:
 
Donabed Kopoian

Donabed Kopoian

6 Speed Master
#74
#74
The new Subaru WRX STi is releasing with a CVT, so it looks possible for a CVT to handle power; however, Car and Driver blasted it for noticeable delay to downshift going to wide open throttle.
 
V

VTAK8k

2014 S Plus
#75
#75
That's weird. One thing I like about this CVT is that it seems to instantly downshift when I floor it, seems to have very good response.

I would think that most people getting an STI would get the manual trans anyway.
 
r0me0ne

r0me0ne

New Member
#78
#78
Donabed Kopoian said:
Yup, if they use a rubber belt I wouldn't chance it. Metal belt ... probably can handle a little extra power.
Click to expand...
It's a steel belt. "The steel belt consists of elements and 2 rows of steel rings. In contrast to chains and belts which transmit power through the use of tensile force, the steel belt uses compressive action (pushing force) of the elements to transmit power"
 
ZeCorolla

ZeCorolla

I Love Corolla's!
#79
#79
r0me0ne said:
It's a steel belt. "The steel belt consists of elements and 2 rows of steel rings. In contrast to chains and belts which transmit power through the use of tensile force, the steel belt uses compressive action (pushing force) of the elements to transmit power"
Click to expand...
Wait, so the 11th gen Corolla uses a steel belt? If yes, how did you find out?
 
Donabed Kopoian

Donabed Kopoian

6 Speed Master
#81
#81
r0me0ne said:
It's a steel belt. "The steel belt consists of elements and 2 rows of steel rings. In contrast to chains and belts which transmit power through the use of tensile force, the steel belt uses compressive action (pushing force) of the elements to transmit power"
Click to expand...
One thing I read is that Toyota limited oil pressure to eliminate as much parasitic drag as possible without creating belt slippage. I think that kills any idea for a turbo on a CVT without modifications to the oil pressure valving.
 
r0me0ne

r0me0ne

New Member
#85
#85
UNFORTUNATELY NOT MUCH IN WAY OF SPECS AS IN "MAX TORQUE ETC, (APOLOGIZE FOR CAPS AT WORK), IT HAS GIVEN ME FOR PULLEY SPEED RATIOS (2.480-0.396) REVERSE (2.604 -1.680)DIFFERENTIAL GEAR RATIO 4.761 TAKES 7.47 (US QUARTS) CVT FLUID FE. WIRING DIAGRAMS, ETC BUT NO TRUE SPECIFICS. IM STILL SEARCHING I MAY GO INTO THE TECH BAY AND GO THROUGH ALLDATA (TECHS BIBLE)
 
ZeCorolla

ZeCorolla

I Love Corolla's!
#86
#86
r0me0ne said:
UNFORTUNATELY NOT MUCH IN WAY OF SPECS AS IN "MAX TORQUE ETC, (APOLOGIZE FOR CAPS AT WORK), IT HAS GIVEN ME FOR PULLEY SPEED RATIOS (2.480-0.396) REVERSE (2.604 -1.680)DIFFERENTIAL GEAR RATIO 4.761 TAKES 7.47 (US QUARTS) CVT FLUID FE. WIRING DIAGRAMS, ETC BUT NO TRUE SPECIFICS. IM STILL SEARCHING I MAY GO INTO THE TECH BAY AND GO THROUGH ALLDATA (TECHS BIBLE)
Click to expand...
This is some good information!
 
DjAnnexAlpha

DjAnnexAlpha

New Member
#89
#89
Scott Lakin said:
Has anyone tried the Injen cold air intake on the 2014 Corolla S yet? If so what was the difference i. Performance?
Click to expand...
I have seen a few member install it but no one has done a dyno run yet to see whether or not any gains have been made. I have a acquaintance at my Toyota dealership who told me that all mechanics there use the K&N drop in air filter. I know that the K&N Typhoon intake supposedly does increase MPG and HP, they did provide a dyno sheet but always take it with a grain of salt. Until I or someone I know and trust on the forums does a dyno run I won't believe that it will increase HP or MPG.
 
Moe

Moe

New Member
#92
#92
bhead9318 said:
Make sure you title it "Help me blow up my car!" and have the highest reward be you sending them a video of your car actually blowing up.

Fundraising done.
Click to expand...
Ok so after reading everybody comments I think I'm just going to do a intake exhaust and a computer chip which should remove the limitter too. What do u say guys??
 
Moe

Moe

New Member
#93
#93
I own a 2015 Corolla its a nice car over all but needs a lil more hp lol. Turbo and super chargers are too much for this car I think intake exhaust and chip should be good enough. After all most ppl buy toyota for economy Cheaper maintaince and less issues with the cars period.
 
ZeCorolla

ZeCorolla

I Love Corolla's!
#94
#94
Moe said:
I own a 2015 Corolla its a nice car over all but needs a lil more hp lol. Turbo and super chargers are too much for this car I think intake exhaust and chip should be good enough. After all most ppl buy toyota for economy Cheaper maintaince and less issues with the cars period.
Click to expand...
If you want a little more horsepower, then I would say that would be good. Where are you getting the chip from? Any links?
 
Jlinn

Jlinn

New Member
#96
#96
There's a site called https://www.deroure.com/ that sells the supercharger kit but the only thing is that it's in a different currency and not sure if they will ship to the use but it's definetly the magnuson r900. on toyota nation this guy ordered one but idk if he lives in the US. Also with supercharger do you know if the LE models transmission can handle the power. Also i believe we would have to flash or reprogram the cars ecu to handle the supercharger.
 
Jlinn

Jlinn

New Member
#98
#98
for the supercharger kit alone it's 4k plus all of the custom stuff you'll have to do and possibly change the belt in the CVT transmission for the LE model (if possible) maybe around 6k - 8k total
 
Moe

Moe

New Member
#99
#99
Lol dam. U serious about all of this hunh?? I'm just trying to do minor upgrades for now. Like a intake, exhaust system, sway bars, springs, and ecu chip. I should make my 2015 Corolla s Hp close to 200. Stock they come with 132hp.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top