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Thanks. I wonder if those 3 were particularly heavy with the right foot - or if they just drew the bad lot re: the solenoid-valve-body-thingie.

Do you mean none with problems afterwards, or none that failed the test drive and needed the valve body replaced?

This is an exact description of the fake shift points: "causing a component to unnecessarily cycle".

Right. But they had other, more serious issues. So their reliability before/after fake shift points may not be helpful. In fact, trying to infer anything from the other brands, as I was speculating on, is probably completely useless.

Thank you for that. I suppose that is the best that can be done for our situation. The fake shift points put North Americans with CVTs in a category by ourselves. We can derive no knowledge about the longer term durability of the Toyota North American CVTs from the rest of the world's...

If those are world-wide stats, then most of the cars involved would not have the fake shift points, is that correct?

Yes to both. IMO, the "Fake Shi(f)t Points" (they're still there after the update, just floor it and watch the tachometer), put unnecessary wear on the CVT. They are fixing something that makes this design error even worse - but the basic error is still there. Though as I understand it from...

I f'd up with my Corolla - ran into and scraped against a small file cabinet I had in my garage. I haven't had estimates for body work done yet, I thought I'd ask here. What's the minimum cost, but effective, thing(s) I can have done (or do myself, if it's not complicated) to prevent rust...

Was it uniquely the North American consumers and reviewers that "needed" fake shift points? The other markets (europe, japan, etc) still don't have the fake shift points? Crazy, the IQ charts don't show North Americans as being marked stupider than anybody else. Is it because of more...

The other guys are right - you really are relentless on that.

I had it installed on my 2018 Corolla LE. All seems well.

Does this protect the oil pan - or anything else down there that would cause a catastrophic issues? F'ing Chicago streets have some giant potholes - even going slow I've bottomed out. I'd rather bottom out on some < $200 bar than the oil pan.

I read that list and decided that Radar CC isn't for me. It's easier for me to just keep the speed where I want it myself, than to be on alert for all those different conditions. There sure are a lot of them.

They do a test drive, where they accelerate full blast to 40, then coast and observe the variation in RPM after it settles down from coasting. (They log the RPM on a Techstream, a computer connected ot the OBD port.) Too much variation, they replace a part. Somebody posted PDFs of the detailed...

I sure hope they gave you a loaner!

This is absolutely pure speculation on my part: This may have been the last Model Year for this specific part - the 2019 CVTs are different. (I read that the direct 1st gear allowed the rest of the new CVT to be smaller and lighter.) Up until recently , Toyota may have thought they were...

I got the above message when trying to start a conversation with one other participant. The participant's name appeared in that message where the xxxxx is, above. Have I been blocked by that user? Or is something else happening? I clicked on the user's name from the list that appeared after...

OK, I thought (if I thought about it at all) that there were "before fake shift points CVT" and an "after fake shift points CVT" versions which might have had different numbers. But yeah, I could see it getting lost due to imprecision..... if the difference was small enough. That's the...

Yeah, I go crazy sometimes. I am not a mechanical engineer (although I did receive a degree in electronic engineering). I would think any reviewer worth anything should have been able to figure out - just like I did, by understanding the smallest amount about how transmissions work, and...

If this is true, then the reviewers are shitheads. They actually were persuaded by something that reduced performance?! Amazing. It's hard to believe that anybody pays people that fucking stupid to write. God help anybody who listens to anything those reviewers say. And yes, we're stuck...