I can tell there are very few real car guys here. Where has all the love of driving gone with everyone driving a lame CVT. There is so much more enjoyment when driving a manual trans. People seem to have a lot of excuses but for people that really love cars and driving will buy a MT. Life is too short to be driving a boring CVT. I taught all 3 of my daughters to drive a MT and even they laugh at people that are too lame to drive a MT. Where's the passion and love for driving gone? Very sad indeed.