Most of us Probably have a "Recall" (CVT)
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My 2015 Corolla S is listed for the special campaign update as well. I was driving on the freeway, when the engine lost power - just revs a lot but no power. Had to come to a complete stop on the freeway, turn off engine, turned on and drove slowly to safety. Had the car towed to the dealer, service manager thinks transmission is shot, needs new transmission. Unfortunately, my car has 70k miles on it, so it is out of warranty. Service manager is working with Toyota to see if transmission replacement will be covered by Toyota, given the CVT issues and the special campaign. Fingers crossed. I really don't want to spend 6k on a new transmission for a car I purchased new not long ago!!!
Thank you for your response. I am not entirely sure if the trouble was related - trouble code was P2820 - Internal transmission failure. The dealership submitted a warranty case to Toyota for authorization and Toyota authorized the CVT replacement (although mileage was 70k) - no charge to customer. After like a week or so, I picked up my car from dealership today and it runs great. Just glad that I did not have to spend 6k. Hope this information is useful to someone else in a similar situation.
I heard the "J0D" recall campaign was suspended, but now they have a "JSD" recall service campaign. What is the difference between the two or are they two separate CVT issues?
Also, planning on driving 600 miles both ways to family for Christmas. Should I get this remedied prior to that? Car has 25k miles on it.
Also, planning on driving 600 miles both ways to family for Christmas. Should I get this remedied prior to that? Car has 25k miles on it.
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JSD replaces JOD. It's the same firmware update for the same potential problem but with a "better" procedure to establish if the transmission also need some repair and how to do it. We haven't heard of many cases where the CVT had actually suffer the "premature" wear this correct so I don't think 600 miles are a big deal but if you have a chance to do it before, why not.
Hey, that is really awesome of you! I appreciate it.
Since I am a new Rolla owner, I just want to make sure I am taking the best care of my car. If you don't mind me asking, what motor oil do you use? Toyota Genuine or another full synthetic? Also Toyota told me since its full synthetic, I only need to replace the oil every 10,000 miles, but I always assumed it was 5,000. What is your take on that?
Also, do you use SeaFoam at all for engine care?
Since I am a new Rolla owner, I just want to make sure I am taking the best care of my car. If you don't mind me asking, what motor oil do you use? Toyota Genuine or another full synthetic? Also Toyota told me since its full synthetic, I only need to replace the oil every 10,000 miles, but I always assumed it was 5,000. What is your take on that?
Also, do you use SeaFoam at all for engine care?
It's full synthetic and 10K is reasonable as full synthetic can go a long way. But like with regular oil, it also depends on driving condition (short trips, stop and go, dusty environment, towing...). The thing is : in Canada (probably because of winter) Toyota still recommends 5K intervals. Its also not such a big expense to do it more often than the maximum suggested. On Seafom, you'll hear everything from "it works miracles" to "useless".
Do I r.e.a.l.l.y need to do this cvt update?
I just received my first notice last week from Toyota about the cvt service campaign.
Haven't been on this board in months cause my 2015 S plus runs so great. I do my own service and car hasn't been to dealer....super reliable with 62,000 hard miles.
I drive 500 miles a week 30-55mph suburban with a lot of accel/decel actions plus strong launches from stop lights. I only use the "D" mode and that way when I need to gain speed quickly the rpms climb and the cvt does its magic.
I rarely use the paddle shifters or sport mode.
I honestly think I would be a candidate for premature cvt issues yet I have nothing but praise for the cvt. It shifts seamlessly and has never hiccupped. I drive hard but would not classify it as abuse.
I'm posting this question because I'm a little apprehensive that I might get the car back and not like the software update
after reading this complete thread. What is my jeopardy if I don't do it?
Comments?
I just received my first notice last week from Toyota about the cvt service campaign.
Haven't been on this board in months cause my 2015 S plus runs so great. I do my own service and car hasn't been to dealer....super reliable with 62,000 hard miles.
I drive 500 miles a week 30-55mph suburban with a lot of accel/decel actions plus strong launches from stop lights. I only use the "D" mode and that way when I need to gain speed quickly the rpms climb and the cvt does its magic.
I rarely use the paddle shifters or sport mode.
I honestly think I would be a candidate for premature cvt issues yet I have nothing but praise for the cvt. It shifts seamlessly and has never hiccupped. I drive hard but would not classify it as abuse.
I'm posting this question because I'm a little apprehensive that I might get the car back and not like the software update
after reading this complete thread. What is my jeopardy if I don't do it?
Comments?
No. For what's it's worth, forums reports 30K units affected and 170K not affected. 70K ? S versions ? Yes, but with scarce reports on forums, it's still hard to conclude. All in all, some needed the VBC replacement, some noticed behavior improvement (units already on the verge of "premarture wear" ?) and the vast majority report no difference. Maybe the problem occur under specific driving habits/conditions? Who knows ! Anyway, getting the update seems to be the safe bet here.
It's just a software update. Doesn't seem like reports are saying lots of people are getting parts repaired, just an adjustment. If toyota's engineers think there can be an improvement worth reporting at mass scale, I go with them.
The issue I have tho, is my dealership is shady, so I went to go to another toyota dealership to get it done. Different kind of shady but at least it's not the "they took the fuse out, and then reported my light assembly needs to be changed for $750 bucks" kind of shady.
The issue I have tho, is my dealership is shady, so I went to go to another toyota dealership to get it done. Different kind of shady but at least it's not the "they took the fuse out, and then reported my light assembly needs to be changed for $750 bucks" kind of shady.
Thanks George. I've been digging thru the net looking for more info on this Jsd and saw your posts on toyotanation.
I'vehad been thinking about a fluid change in about another 10k mikes @ 75k odometer. I don't want to combine a fluid change now with the Jsd cause then I would have 2 variables if something goes awry. I seem to recall that the fluid is resistance tested for remaining life or something similar. So should I request that test be done along with Jsd? (At least I'll have an idea of when I should change the fluid based on mileage interpolation etc.)
I'vehad been thinking about a fluid change in about another 10k mikes @ 75k odometer. I don't want to combine a fluid change now with the Jsd cause then I would have 2 variables if something goes awry. I seem to recall that the fluid is resistance tested for remaining life or something similar. So should I request that test be done along with Jsd? (At least I'll have an idea of when I should change the fluid based on mileage interpolation etc.)
Good idea to make fluid replacement a separate issue for the reason you give and because of the way work is organized in shops. "Lifetime" fluid is an urban legend coming from a misinterpretation of the maintenance schedule, which only say mandatory change at 60K in case of severe usage. But it also says to check every 30K then act appropriately. That being said, modern fluid in modern trans can indeed go a long way.
The fluid change presents options also. I looked online and it appears straighforward to do myself. Or I could pay dealer to do it with toyota oem fluid. Or pay a shop to do it perhaps with synthetic fluid. But....per the remote chance that my tranny develops a problem at higher mileage, having me or the Indy shop swapping fluid might be the weasel clause that Toyota uses to deny an out of warranty claim. I can understand their position. I just prefer doing my own work (within my comfort zone/skill level) but I guess I'll pay the dealer this time for their stamp of approval/get out of jail free card.
Please report the issue to https://www.nhtsa.gov/
Please report the issue to https://www.nhtsa.gov/
Not a bad thing to do, but NHTSA deals with safety recalls. For instance, the Civic's CVT was a safety recall because pulleys could physically break,, bringing the car to an immediate and abrupt stop. No such case with this service campaign. At most, the car would enter limp mode if, by any bad luck, its CVT is one of the few actually affected by the premature wear this service campaign is suppose to prevent.
Hi Harry, I have similar issue with my 2014 corolla at 87k. The rpms go up and down even on a flat road with minimal acceleration. Went to the dealership for the update and they told that transmission is damaged and needs a repalcement. Dealership told me that they consulted toyota technicians and came to a conclusion that issues in trans are not related to JSD campaign and wont be covered under that. He gave a similar quote of 6k for replacement. How did you find out the trouble code (DTC code) ? Was your engine light lit when you experienced the condition? Did your delearship shared that with you, I tired getting ans from mine but they did not have any satifactoy replies.
Just got my cvt reprogrammed. Took about an hour but damn, car drives different. Seems like it’s a lot more smooth and more torque from stop. I don’t have to push it and it goes good. I can definitely tell they’ve reprogrammed it. It’s actually fun to drive now. I didn’t expect this. 
I want to know how your car is doing since the "Special Service" "recall" you had performed... The reason I ask is because I am about to take my 2017 Corolla to toyota and have the same thing done. But i want to know if your car is running good? Or did the "Service" make it worse?
Hey! today is May 4, 2019.... I would like to know how is your car doing since the "Special Sercive" / "Recall" was performed ? The reason I ask is because I am about to take my 2017 Corolla to the deal and have the issue fixed... But first I would like to know if the "Service" made your car better or worse?
Hey! today is May 4, 2019.... I would like to know how is your car doing since the "Special Sercive" / "Recall" was performed ? The reason I ask is because I am about to take my 2017 Corolla to the deal and have the issue fixed... But first I would like to know if the "Service" made your car better or worse?
Hey! today is May 4, 2019.... I would like to know how is your car doing since the "Special Sercive" / "Recall" was performed ? The reason I ask is because I am about to take my 2017 Corolla to the deal and have the issue fixed... But first I would like to know if the "Service" made your car better or worse?
My Corolla se 2016 58k already having problems no acceleration, not going over 40 miles, jerking, down shifting, and shift to N while driving. now I'm at the dealer checking on it right now. They said I have transmission flashing recall on the car that they've never mentioned to me before even thou I'm there everytime for oil change. I have to pay 100$ deductible in order for them to check or work on it. I will be definitely asking about the warranty and if they only reprogram it I will take it out side to check on any wear and tear on the transmission
Part of what you describe sound like "limp mode", a program in which the car enter to prevent damage from a mechanical problem (but it's not the problem itself). It may or may not be related to the CVT, so they'll have to check what it is first. But you also mention "shift to N while driving": that's definitely not "limp mode" nor does it sounds related to the CVT trouble for which there is a service campaign.
Not sure they'll charge you $100 for diagnostic, since you have 5 years/60K warranty on powertrain (engine/trans)... The service campaign reprogram the CVT to avoid premature wear; if that has already occur, the campaign provide for free repair / replacement whatever the mileage. But any other condition, CVT related or not, has to be adressed before.
That's poor service from your dealer not to have advise you of the campaign, especially since it's good money from Toyota to them to perform it... Toyota also send letters to owners (at least in Canada). It's also a good thing to check those by yourself with your VIN (US: https://www.toyota.com/recall Canada: https://www.toyota.ca/toyota/en/my-toyota/recalls)
If you ever go outside for work on this transmission, I suggest first another Toyota dealer (or at least an highly reknowned shop): those CVTs are simple but require precise intervention. From what you mention about the dealer, it might have been a good idea in the first place ! Good luck !
Not sure they'll charge you $100 for diagnostic, since you have 5 years/60K warranty on powertrain (engine/trans)... The service campaign reprogram the CVT to avoid premature wear; if that has already occur, the campaign provide for free repair / replacement whatever the mileage. But any other condition, CVT related or not, has to be adressed before.
That's poor service from your dealer not to have advise you of the campaign, especially since it's good money from Toyota to them to perform it... Toyota also send letters to owners (at least in Canada). It's also a good thing to check those by yourself with your VIN (US: https://www.toyota.com/recall Canada: https://www.toyota.ca/toyota/en/my-toyota/recalls)
If you ever go outside for work on this transmission, I suggest first another Toyota dealer (or at least an highly reknowned shop): those CVTs are simple but require precise intervention. From what you mention about the dealer, it might have been a good idea in the first place ! Good luck !